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Wow…pro-China channel for comments…tons of indoctrinated folks…one guy here says he's from Brazil and his wife is Chinese and he'd never leave China…lol…I have friends that live there and want to leave badly and have said exactly the opposite…makes you wonder about who's paying the channel…just sad to see so many "woke" comments…almost like trolls and bots pushing a China narrative…for the record China has been around 20 times longer than the USA and a population over 4 times larger than the USA but has achieved far less and contributed far less than the USA has in the last 250 years…if one is to look at the historic times lines, one will find quickly that China is a failed nation many times over…
lalala the us had better see the competition in china is real.
This documentary is so full of Chinese shit and lies that only the most gullible would believe. Chinese chipmakers are now in doldrums due to American sanctions!
let Africa close its borders for 1 year and see how the chip business goes. People think these chips pop up out of thin air
China will quickly displace Nvidia. By 2027 they will lead the market.
7:05 I don't think they want to use particle accelerators per se (which they already do for ion implantation), they want to use free electron lasers, which are a special adaptation of an electron accelerator. It has been technically possible for 40 years, it's just been a question of economics. Now that a handful of xray free electron lasers have been in use for about a decade (e.g. SwissFEL, XFEL, etc.), the industry can consider incorporating such a system into a litho facility and not go broke trying to fix fundamental issues with the FEL itself.
It can mean only one thing, they’ve stole all the tech they need…
So who’s chip did HuaWei rip off?😮
Many venture capatalusts are backing Chinese chips like 11:43 warren Buffett backed byd byd snd jettison ed Tesla?
They are also engaging new minds? So new thiughts.
China has nithing to lose, only to gain?
She really loves that semiconductor wafer.
The only hurdle left for China is making 5nm, after that no longer need Taiwan semi and US no longer can contain China in technology.
I had some chinese colleagues in my research lab. They were the most hard working and resilient folks I have ever seen. I am from India, and I have deep respect for them. These guys deliver and keep quite about it, move on to the next project. A lot of the local European colleagues made fun of them, but they were too gentlemanly to engage in any bitter conflict. They pursued a PhD with little knowledge of English, still wrote excellent theses although the time was too short to master the speaking part of it. They completed their studies and went back to China, left gifts for us all the colleagues (the mean ones as well). I wish India follows the Chinese no nonsense attitude to living life.
China leads the world in photonic chips R&D and is expected to start rolling them out for mass production within the next 3 years.
This will practically render current chip tech obsolete.
Nvidia has been slow to adopt low precision (8 bit or less) multipliers in their GPU products. Google was years ahead of Nvidia in this important need for the advance of Deep Learning and AI.
Anastasia are you wearing Cartier Santos watch?
CCP propaganda
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 🤖 Restrictions on Critical Semiconductor Manufacturing Equipment
– Overview of the economic competition between the US and China regarding semiconductor technology.
– Restrictions on the most critical semiconductor manufacturing equipment produced by companies like ASML, LAM Research, KLA.
00:29 🧠 Domestic Developments of Advanced AI Chips in China
– The US restrictions have stimulated domestic developments of advanced AI chips in China.
– Companies like Huawei, Alibaba, Meta X, and various startups are developing their own AI chips to compete with NVIDIA GPUs.
01:28 🛠️ Challenges in Designing, Manufacturing, and Software for New Chinese AI Chips
– Designing chips without the use of American EDA tools like Synopsys and Cadence is a challenge.
– Manufacturing capabilities and capacity at SMIC are limited compared to TSMC.
– Developing software stacks to efficiently utilize the new hardware is a key challenge.
03:21 🐯 Huawei's 910B GPU: Powerful but Facing Challenges
– Huawei's 910B GPU is a competitive AI GPU, with higher performance than NVIDIA's H20 GPU.
– However, Huawei is facing challenges in manufacturing capacity and software optimization.
– SMIC's limited capacity may not be able to meet the high demand for the 910B GPU.
05:06 🏭 Challenges in Manufacturing and Packaging for Chinese AI Chips
-MIC's limited manufacturing capacity and access to advanced lithography tools like EUV are obstacles.
– Chinese companies are exploring alternative techniques like using particle accelerators for lithography.
– Developing high-bandwidth memory solutions is another critical challenge.
07:46 🤖 Software Stack Development: A Key Challenge for Chinese AI Chip Companies
– Building a software stack from scratch to efficiently utilize the new hardware is a major challenge.
– Companies like Huawei and Biren are investing in developing their own software stacks.
– Compatibility with existing platforms like NVIDIA's CUDA is also an important consideration.
09:56 🔍 Biren's BR100 GPU: Promising but Facing Limitations
– Biren's BR100 GPU was considered one of the most competitive in China, with performance comparable to NVIDIA's latest GPUs.
– However, the company faced challenges with the advanced packaging technology required for their design.
– TSMC's suspension of manufacturing the BR100 due to export regulations has forced Biren to pivot their design.
11:42 🆕 Other Chinese AI Chip Startups and Their Efforts
– Startups like Intelifusion and Hygen are developing new AI chips, some of which claim compatibility with NVIDIA's platforms.
– These startups face challenges in securing manufacturing capacity, which is likely prioritized for Huawei.
13:30 🔜 Future Outlook: China's Potential for Domestic AI Chip Development
– Despite the current challenges, the author is confident that China will overcome the manufacturing and software hurdles in the next 5 years.
– This could lead to China's ability to domestically design and manufacture AI chips capable of training large language models similar to GPT-4.
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You can believe any news that comes from China. The government lies about everything and Chinese companies are even worse. 🤦🏻♂️
Why waste your valuable time making this video. YouTube are for loafers. Apply to join Huawei or China Academy of Scientists who need chip design engineers
such and a humble and polite way to ask for subscibers , You;ve got mine and many from Kenya
Westerners constantly underestimate the Chinese. Time and again, the Chinese have proven that they can overcome any obstacle the West throws at them.
When it comes to lithography, DUV/EUV cannot be the only technology that gets the job done. As a physicist, I know that the universe is not so limited. If it's not particle beams, it'll be something else the Chinese can innovate.
China has a vast pool of scientific and engineering talent that completely dwarfs the United States. Let's not be so smug.
ASML is a big competion for China and a the EV mashines are developed by such a great team of companys around the globe..China alone cant build such a maschine alone. China cant even build the 6nm maschines by there own missing 10 – 20 YEARS and this is a big gap…
The problem that China faces is lithography. Without EUV, SMIC is limited to multi-patterning. Intel ran into problems at 10nm because multi-patterning was difficult to use and reach high yield. The most recent Huawei mobile processor had very significant yield issues because of massive multi-patterning. China may develop other technologies to rival ASML. I hope that they do. There have been many different "light" sources for lithography. These include x-ray, direct write E-beam, etc. The only one that is in use today uses a plasma from molten tin being hit by a high power laser. This is EUV.
China is moving at a fast pace. These "huge problems" will be nothing burgers in a few short years.
Look at Huawei. 2018 US sanctions. 2024, Kirin 9010! Unbelievable what the Chinese can accomplish in such a short period of time.
Greedy Americans!
the presenter acts and talks perfectly like human!
Stasi secret police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGv6uo89yMY
Yes, Nvidia has an overall lead in AI chip development. So, they will tend to keep this lead. Now that China has been banned from acquiring the newest chip making machines by the EU, and the Netherlands, they will always be in "catch up mode." A place you never want to be in making chips. Hence China's need to "acquire Taiwan" – good luck with that.
Anastasi were also a fascinating Indian tribe in New Mexico that mysteriously left their homes for no apparent reason.
It’s interesting that Apple launched its touch screen phone in 2007 and Huawei launched same thing two years later in 2009. What does that tell you?
Nothing is impossible even cloning of Animals is successful.
Now Yellan is in China begging China to slowdown on EV production's.
Huawei was victimized by sanctions because of its fast growing dominance that makes US and Western countries afraid. Likewise, TikTok is also suffers the same faith.
Everything from China became a national thread to this inferior complex US and Western countries.
Crane at Ports, Garlic 🧄, cotton, solar panels, wind turbine and even students these losers Imperial Colonial pirates are afraid of.😅😂
Interesting survey of Chinese AI efforts. Not sure even China has enough money to subsidize ecosystem creation sufficiently to build an entire leading-edge process ecosystem. SMIC yields for their 7nm and proposed 5nm are far lower than TSMC, especially for huge GPU dies. Adding capacity only makes the ecosystem cost more.
As far as I know they don't depend on ASML for lithography machines anymore, they've produced their own…
The best Chinese engineers don't want to live and work under the Chinese government.
China doesn't need a faster chip than Nvidia, if they just produce enough of what they already know how to make and run them in parallel.
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China makes its own EDA Tools. Bye Bye Synopsis & Cadence! Yangtze's memory is doing quite well. TK!
Why 'problems' instead of 'benefits'? Please stop promoting negative news like Western media
Excellent video and information as usual. Bravo Zulu. However, allow me to indulge a bit. The China angle reminds me of a sore spot concerning western innovation and China somehow catching up in a short span of time, relative to the West’s long, costly, and hard-won innovations and advancements, with resultant national pride and inspiration for future generations. Simply put…why the western world allowed a pure hardline communist country to be admitted into the WTO ~22 years ago, favored nation status, and granted access to western finance, technological know-how, and all other critical innovations of the western world, is beyond comprehension. Thinking China would somehow become this democratic utopia and leave the communist ideology after it tasted the good fruit of Capitalism. Ultimately, as predicted by wiser minds, China militarized their good fortune at a break neck pace while ignoring international protocol/agreements along the way, hardening their stance as a hardline communist nation, and smiling while brazenly doing it (Spratly Islands anyone?). Fascinating really.
They should have been left the dirt road country they were and let them figure it out on their own at a pace commensurate with becoming a global partner by hard work and a genuine desire to disengage from communistic ideologies, or be left behind. That’s the price of communism. Tough global love if you will. Left alone, the Chinese people could have forced change while seeing the western world fly by as they lived in the past. But no … cheap labor (a.k.a. enslavement of their own people) and cheap products (both in price and quality, .99 cent stores, Walmart, Amazon, etc., and EU equivalents) for western nations’ consumption, in order to allow huge global corporations to become far richer and politically powerful at the expense of global peace and stability (Multistakeholder Concept = Marxism … thank you WEF Klaus ‘you will own nothing and like it’ Schwab … Lucifers spawn and consummate hypocrite … little man).
This short sighted and demented thinking has allowed these hardline communists to translate immense access to western financial and technological prowess, into military capabilities with a feverish quest for world domination. Period. The Chinese domestic success they extol to the world, gained by the same treachery on both sides, is just a front for the foul deeds behind the red curtains. Yes. President for life Xi (a.k.a. Tyrannical Dictator) has no intentions of being a multinational/multistakeholder (Schwabism) global partner nor play fair in the tech business arena, or any arena for that matter. Restrictions? “How much do they want for it?” If that doesn’t work? Steal it. The West’s response? “We don’t see anything”. Gotta keep that cheap labor and products flowing ya know.
Since WTO entry, China has abused that privilege by using the best parts of capitalism, and disregarding the parts that all nations must abide by. Clearly giving them a significant advantage and a major reason for their astronomical growth in such a short time span. Again, what did the West do? Turn the other cheek. Lovely. They steal, buy illegally, extort western companies to give proprietary technical knowledge in exchange for permission to do business in China, receive technology that is restricted but accessed by treacherous citizens of western nations, for monetary gain, etc., etc. Communists never play by the rules. They laugh at our naivete' and marvel at it at the same time.
It has been immensely irresponsible of western global leaders to have allowed this, and without doubt we see the results, and it will not get any better. It's too late. Ironically, it will be too late when China and other bad actors bear the rotten fruit of AI abuse in their quest for global domination. Well under way actually. Global domination is their goal, such as it is for the western Great Reset/NWO cabal. Not competition and growth achieved by fair means to benefit mankind. Of course not. Though no saints themselves by any measure, the western powers' Great Reset/NWO cabal are going to regret letting the Chinese into the first-world-country family fold to be sure, if they are not already wringing their collective old uber-rich fossil hands as they see the monster they created. Alas, we will all pay for it in the not-too-distant future. We ignore at our own peril. Sad indeed. Take care all.
“Today the House of Representatives has taken an historic step toward continued prosperity in America, reform in China, and peace in the world. . . it will open new doors of trade for America and new hope for change in China.”
Bill Clinton, U.S. President
That didn’t age well … 🤔
Other than that … things are going pretty good. 😬
The huge problem is: More people are out of their jobs in the western
China is 20 years behind the US. This is propaganda
Now that China has developed optical processors, does it even matter who has the fastest or most economical electronic chips?
I believe these will be overcome eventually. These Chinese chips may not be the fastest or most efficient energy wise, but it is not like these 'quasi state owned' enterprises are in a hurry to offer comparable ROI to their shareholders.
By stopping western chip and equipment makers from offering Chinese customers their best products, it will only foster the accelerated development on the local makers with the support of the state. The Chinese AI companies are 'forced' to go local as the reliance on foreign chips and designs carries far greater risks should they become unavailable. They learnt this the hard way when the chips sanctions came online. Don't think they will make the same mistake twice.
Why don't you ask NASA why they asked the Chinese to help using Chinese device to help with us satellite in orbit. You don't hear about that or the Chinese is more advanced then us.
Just FYI, the H in Huawei is not silent. It is "HWA-WEI", not "WAH-WEI". I have no idea why Westerners think the H is silent. I suspect it's because Cantonese pronounce it that way. But in Mandarin, the H is voiced clearly. I am a native Mandarin speaker.
What ever means Uncle Sam tried to contain China, it only affect China in short term, in the long term China will emerged far better and bigger. America foolishness and lack confidence expose to the world their ulgy side of her face.